what's here is a cover-up that barack obama right before the election wanted to cover up -- well something. i don't know what they're trying to cover up. but he didn't want it to be an act of terror. if he had said this is an act of terrorism, probably would go shooting up in the polls at the time. so there's no sense -- >> he did say it was -- >> there's no point, no sense to their charge of a cover-up. but saying that the state department security office screwed up, doesn't get you at the white house, doesn't get the president or susan rice or anybody else of a high position in the line of fire. which is what they want. so this is again and again they're trying to suggest that something is wrong, said what the cia told her and it is i think as richard said, kind of an immature exercise and the common ritual you go up to capitol hill after weeks of this and they come out and say we kind of sorted this out, still have other questions, but their appearance, if they don't back up their troubles, the fact that they're troubled by this with some details, it just shows you they're not